Apoyo completamente, sinceramente se me hace algo tonto y/o estúpido lo de la censura, cada quien juega lo que quiere y si les molestan los juegos +18, solo no los jueguen y ya, no hay porque quitar el a otras personas el tipo de contenido que les gusta ver, y si ese es el caso porque mejor no atacaron a ph y a páginas de ese tipo?
so many NSFW games came out of itch.io that i genuinely played for the plot and censoring something like that is just outrageous. were getting closer and closer to making 1984 into reality. other than that i really enjoyed the references about the situation in the game itself, i hope you creators are gonna get your way.
Speech brother. Social media is tuning into a real life, modern day, 1984. And that's scary as fuck. Everyone suffers except those who control. Nobody has real ideas. The lowers one don't die phsyically, we die mentally. Our creativity, gone. Our freedom, what's that? We all do the same thing, make boring, cheesy, cringy, "family friendly" shitty content/games. YouTube and Tumblr have already fallen for it the most, Itch and Steam are getting closer. Before, it was just ACTUALLY things to censor, like death threats, extreme homophobia/heterophobia. Now it's fucking WORDS, IDEAS, STORIES, SEX, MENTAL FUCKING ILLNESS. The internet is censoring life itself. I really hope we don't fall into 1984, but from it seems, it might be too late.
I made the promise of never purchasing a single game on itch until they change their policies and stop removing already purchased games from players libraries.
I'm somehow ok with them delisting games they see problematic for their bussiness but removing already purchased games from player's libraries is like a war crime for me so, if you have a patreon, kofi or any other way to give you some coins it would be great. Let me know.
Can you please link to an example of where a game was removed from someone’s library? Unfortunately there’s a lot of misinformation going around. None of the changes that were deployed last week impacted availability of content in libraries. You can learn more on the FAQ on this post: https://itch.io/updates/update-on-nsfw-content#addendum-faq
Greetings! My game "SCP: Affection" is still under shadowban, even tho I followed the new rules. May you please unban it? Also I don't have access to your discord server. Best Regards!
Please don’t hijack other people’s comments for your own support issue
We didn’t “shadow ban” anyone. We “deindexed” a subset of pages from the discovery part of the site based on some criteria and announced it to our users https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_banning
I fully agree and am supporting this game's message, and I want people to know itch.io's perspective as well.
Like the game said games that push the boundaries and express the intimate part of the human experience are extremely important and should be able to thrive on its platform and bring livelihood to their creators. They should be able to reach people who need to feel validated that their thoughts and actions AREN'T awful and that repressing everything is a bad thing.
But the situation right now as I understand it is that the biggest contributor of this livelihood Mastercard and Visa, (Even though is it individual people with their own money and will that really shouldn't be able to be controlled by a company) are threatening to completely KILL this site and stop allowing people to pay for ANYTHING hosted on this platform.
I think itch.io wanted to protect as much of their creators as they could in the face of a threat like this, and so had to act accordingly.
Their statement said that they're reviewing the games they've delisted which hopefully means that in time they will be listed once more
Itch.io had to unfairly choose and it's awful but that is what the situation called for unfortunately
The people and groups really to blame for disrupting the livelihood of creators and stopping people from being seen are collective shout and Mastercard and Visa for somehow getting convinced by this Australian non-profit with not even 50,000 people to make the rash decision of pulling away from itch.io at the expense of thousands of creators, and hundreds of thousands of consumers.
But those are just my thoughts that I still have the freedom of sharing thank god
BUT it's not just about making a game with rape, incest, or mutilation. Do you really need to see a crime to be sexually stimulated?
I don't agree with such a broad sanction by the payment companies, but they have the right to not want their brand associated with games that support rape and oppression
Payment companies absolutely do not have the right to block whatever they find unappealing to their 'brand.'
Jesus Christ, their entire purpose is to facilitate transactions between two places, that's it. I hope there are a thousand more games like this that push this wave of censorship to breaking point because ruling what is and is not fit for public consumption is not the job of fucking Visa.
Nobody’s arguing that rape or mutilation are good things. The point is that fiction, even dark and uncomfortable fiction, exists to explore extremes, not to promote them. Just like watching a war film doesn’t make you a war criminal, playing a game with taboo content doesn’t mean you’re about to commit a crime. Shockingly, people are capable of separating fantasy from reality. Who knew?
What’s really worrying is that payment processors are acting like the new moral police, cutting off support to anything that doesn’t fit their blurry definition of acceptable. So who gets to decide what counts as oppressive or too offensive? Is it just whatever makes a PR guy nervous that day?
If a company doesn’t want to be associated with certain content, fine. But at least be consistent, be clear, and stop pretending it’s about protecting people. It’s not. It’s about brand image and control, and that’s a much bigger problem than any piece of messed-up fiction.
I have inherited these censorship tools from their previous holders and have decided that a genre of games you enjoy (train stuff, judging by your other comments) is now banned because it may help those with intent to cause harm familiarise themselves with transportation systems. No more sims, peasant.
See the problem yet?
(For the record: I have no problem with any genre of sim games)
Although I am not an NSFW game consumer (not yet at least ;)),this makes a very valid argument, especially the part about NSFW games funding other, SFW projects. Even though it's not a game, it reminded me of the story of Nagatoro-san; the mangaka started initially drawing doujinshi, and then switshed to more SFW stuff, even if Nagatoro-san is still on the edgier side of things, and look at it! It's become a very well known and respected (maybe) manga and even got itself an anime adaptation.
Even if some poeple go too far, I trust the NSFW game community and the porn connaisseurs to self-regulate themselves, and create a healthy and welcoming ecosystem.
I think that taking away this launch pad for creators and home for consumers, is a net negative for the online community as a whole.
Though I do want to make clear that I find games like No Mercy not ok and that the people who made it should probably have the tip of their penis papercutted and that it is very refflective of the hostility that women have to face both online and in real life today.
However, from what i've seen, it has been greatly blown out of proportion.
And even if it was just as horrible as people were saying, nuking the entire adult game genre for a few sick fucks seem excessive to me.
Moreover, claiming that companies like Mastercard or Visa are endorsing these games by hosting monetary transactions for them and are thus benefiting from it, even though it maybe represents one pico-percent of their yearly income is disingenuous and unrealistic.
I don't want to pull a perfect-world-falacy here but the answer to me seems to "just" be harder moderation if we don't want games like this, though that would require companies like Steam to actually give a fuck about their consumers...
well said, if you have some donation box I would love to donate to you dude. You literally read my mind and took the words right outta my mouth, mad respect
you deserve your voice to be heard, and art is art. Without risk and explicit stuff, alot of influential works and masterpieces we all adore would've never existed. Everyone and anyone can make art, both safe and not safe for work. Passion, creativity, the world needs more soul than ever. This was the best commentary I read on this whole situation, thank you for this
thanks for the donation request, but I did not make this game for anyone to support me financially. If you want to support someone, try to find a way to support NSFW developers; they need it right now.
............being moderately offended over something that wasn't necessarily personal isn't really near comparable to what actually queer people experience. just saying <3
Minor nitpick; you can't get properly introduced to both girls in one run, so the scene in which the player notes that both girls are still home is kinda confusing. Maybe rewrite the dialogue in that section so it doesn't imply that you met the other girl before?
EDIT: Also, in one of the dialogues near the end of Scout's route, "Scout and Scout" should be "Collette and Shout".
Also the scene that mentions gay furries and kinks has a "your'e" instead of "you're," and after that "affct" instead of "affect". A few scenes later, there's "shot support" instead of "show support".
When clever writing doesn't do it, and puns just fly by, sometimes a solid bop to face with reality is all you can do.
The game was fun, I saw it and was interested in it without knowing what to expect, other than it being short. Kinda sad there couldn't be more to it, probably that is the point.
The point of this game is to deliver a message, that is to make clear that expression and art should not be censored by corporate tyrants that think they can dictate a person's freedoms or rights. That they decide what you as a person can buy. Realistically, from all I have read throughout the many people that speak up, these corporate types really think they own you and can decide how you exist for their benefit.
I played both routes and loved the art of the game.
Between Collette and Scout, Scout was my favorite of the two girls
Scout’s route had me internally cracking up with the Tim Burton line and the line about the black toilet. 😆
I did notice some spelling mistakes. Collette doesn’t say, “affect” but instead “affct.”
Scout says, “Scout and Scout” instead of “Collette and Scout.”
Otherwise, I felt that the ending monologue was written in a way that better reflected Scout’s personality versus Collette’s personality. Yet, I liked and agreed with the overall sentiment in the game’s conclusion.
Hopefully, this VN of yours doesn’t get banned or removed. I’m thankful one of my visual novels didn’t get removed, at least not yet, and that one featured NSFW content.
I even signed the petition, outraged by the censorship as well.
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whatttttttttttt
I don't even play ts whys this in my Linux games feed
I'm here for the social discourse and anarchy and gooning. Carry on. ♥
Apoyo completamente, sinceramente se me hace algo tonto y/o estúpido lo de la censura, cada quien juega lo que quiere y si les molestan los juegos +18, solo no los jueguen y ya, no hay porque quitar el a otras personas el tipo de contenido que les gusta ver, y si ese es el caso porque mejor no atacaron a ph y a páginas de ese tipo?
To everyone protesting make sure to call these numbers but act professional:
pretty cool 8/10
Fight the Big Fight
I really hope this sudden puritanism is punished apropriatly.
so many NSFW games came out of itch.io that i genuinely played for the plot and censoring something like that is just outrageous. were getting closer and closer to making 1984 into reality. other than that i really enjoyed the references about the situation in the game itself, i hope you creators are gonna get your way.
Speech brother. Social media is tuning into a real life, modern day, 1984. And that's scary as fuck. Everyone suffers except those who control. Nobody has real ideas. The lowers one don't die phsyically, we die mentally. Our creativity, gone. Our freedom, what's that? We all do the same thing, make boring, cheesy, cringy, "family friendly" shitty content/games. YouTube and Tumblr have already fallen for it the most, Itch and Steam are getting closer. Before, it was just ACTUALLY things to censor, like death threats, extreme homophobia/heterophobia. Now it's fucking WORDS, IDEAS, STORIES, SEX, MENTAL FUCKING ILLNESS. The internet is censoring life itself. I really hope we don't fall into 1984, but from it seems, it might be too late.
Pretty cool game!
Is there a way to support you outside from itch?
I made the promise of never purchasing a single game on itch until they change their policies and stop removing already purchased games from players libraries.
I'm somehow ok with them delisting games they see problematic for their bussiness but removing already purchased games from player's libraries is like a war crime for me so, if you have a patreon, kofi or any other way to give you some coins it would be great. Let me know.
You can't support me outside of itch.io right now, unfortunately. You can however, share the game and get the word out, which would mean a lot to me
Can you please link to an example of where a game was removed from someone’s library? Unfortunately there’s a lot of misinformation going around. None of the changes that were deployed last week impacted availability of content in libraries. You can learn more on the FAQ on this post: https://itch.io/updates/update-on-nsfw-content#addendum-faq
Greetings! My game "SCP: Affection" is still under shadowban, even tho I followed the new rules. May you please unban it? Also I don't have access to your discord server. Best Regards!
Request Code: 299031
devs can set so that 0% of the money goes to itch, I'd like that
Very nice message.
except for some typoes in the text (scout and scout... collective shout // wierd)
Love it! :)
The pun is that "Collette and scout" sounds like collective shout... or is supposed to anyway
ye i guessed. but still the typo "scout scout" is in there in the Scout text
I fully agree and am supporting this game's message, and I want people to know itch.io's perspective as well.
Like the game said games that push the boundaries and express the intimate part of the human experience are extremely important and should be able to thrive on its platform and bring livelihood to their creators. They should be able to reach people who need to feel validated that their thoughts and actions AREN'T awful and that repressing everything is a bad thing.
But the situation right now as I understand it is that the biggest contributor of this livelihood Mastercard and Visa, (Even though is it individual people with their own money and will that really shouldn't be able to be controlled by a company) are threatening to completely KILL this site and stop allowing people to pay for ANYTHING hosted on this platform.
I think itch.io wanted to protect as much of their creators as they could in the face of a threat like this, and so had to act accordingly.
Their statement said that they're reviewing the games they've delisted which hopefully means that in time they will be listed once more
Itch.io had to unfairly choose and it's awful but that is what the situation called for unfortunately
The people and groups really to blame for disrupting the livelihood of creators and stopping people from being seen are collective shout and Mastercard and Visa for somehow getting convinced by this Australian non-profit with not even 50,000 people to make the rash decision of pulling away from itch.io at the expense of thousands of creators, and hundreds of thousands of consumers.
But those are just my thoughts that I still have the freedom of sharing thank god
They are not even censoring things like these because they care about the children.
Not really, that’s just a cover to push forward their own agenda or control.
BUT it's not just about making a game with rape, incest, or mutilation. Do you really need to see a crime to be sexually stimulated?
I don't agree with such a broad sanction by the payment companies, but they have the right to not want their brand associated with games that support rape and oppression
Payment companies absolutely do not have the right to block whatever they find unappealing to their 'brand.'
Jesus Christ, their entire purpose is to facilitate transactions between two places, that's it. I hope there are a thousand more games like this that push this wave of censorship to breaking point because ruling what is and is not fit for public consumption is not the job of fucking Visa.
Nobody’s arguing that rape or mutilation are good things. The point is that fiction, even dark and uncomfortable fiction, exists to explore extremes, not to promote them. Just like watching a war film doesn’t make you a war criminal, playing a game with taboo content doesn’t mean you’re about to commit a crime. Shockingly, people are capable of separating fantasy from reality. Who knew?
What’s really worrying is that payment processors are acting like the new moral police, cutting off support to anything that doesn’t fit their blurry definition of acceptable. So who gets to decide what counts as oppressive or too offensive? Is it just whatever makes a PR guy nervous that day?
If a company doesn’t want to be associated with certain content, fine. But at least be consistent, be clear, and stop pretending it’s about protecting people. It’s not. It’s about brand image and control, and that’s a much bigger problem than any piece of messed-up fiction.
I have inherited these censorship tools from their previous holders and have decided that a genre of games you enjoy (train stuff, judging by your other comments) is now banned because it may help those with intent to cause harm familiarise themselves with transportation systems. No more sims, peasant.
See the problem yet?
(For the record: I have no problem with any genre of sim games)
Keep those in if it means people can have creative freedom :)
Although I am not an NSFW game consumer (not yet at least ;)),this makes a very valid argument, especially the part about NSFW games funding other, SFW projects. Even though it's not a game, it reminded me of the story of Nagatoro-san; the mangaka started initially drawing doujinshi, and then switshed to more SFW stuff, even if Nagatoro-san is still on the edgier side of things, and look at it! It's become a very well known and respected (maybe) manga and even got itself an anime adaptation.
Even if some poeple go too far, I trust the NSFW game community and the porn connaisseurs to self-regulate themselves, and create a healthy and welcoming ecosystem.
I think that taking away this launch pad for creators and home for consumers, is a net negative for the online community as a whole.
Though I do want to make clear that I find games like No Mercy not ok and that the people who made it should probably have the tip of their penis papercutted and that it is very refflective of the hostility that women have to face both online and in real life today.
However, from what i've seen, it has been greatly blown out of proportion.
And even if it was just as horrible as people were saying, nuking the entire adult game genre for a few sick fucks seem excessive to me.
Moreover, claiming that companies like Mastercard or Visa are endorsing these games by hosting monetary transactions for them and are thus benefiting from it, even though it maybe represents one pico-percent of their yearly income is disingenuous and unrealistic.
I don't want to pull a perfect-world-falacy here but the answer to me seems to "just" be harder moderation if we don't want games like this, though that would require companies like Steam to actually give a fuck about their consumers...
Bring back the porn 🙏
preach king
Update on NSFW content
More information here: https://itch.io/updates/update-on-nsfw-content
Petitions below:
https://www.change.org/p/tell-mastercard-visa-activist-groups-stop-controlling-w...
https://action.aclu.org/petition/mastercard-sex-work-work-end-your-unjust-policy
thanks for this
VALID POINTS ALL AROUND THE BOARD
ITCHIO BETTER BE LISTENING
ARE YOUR EARS OPEN?????
HEY ITCHIO ARE U LISTENING
YYYYAYY YALL LETS HYPE THIS SHT UP
well said, if you have some donation box I would love to donate to you dude. You literally read my mind and took the words right outta my mouth, mad respect
you deserve your voice to be heard, and art is art. Without risk and explicit stuff, alot of influential works and masterpieces we all adore would've never existed. Everyone and anyone can make art, both safe and not safe for work. Passion, creativity, the world needs more soul than ever. This was the best commentary I read on this whole situation, thank you for this
thanks for the donation request, but I did not make this game for anyone to support me financially. If you want to support someone, try to find a way to support NSFW developers; they need it right now.
loved the message but being called a vanilla hetero was a bit offensive >< (jk)
............being moderately offended over something that wasn't necessarily personal isn't really near comparable to what actually queer people experience. just saying <3
i'm not offended at all; it was a joke because i am queer. just commenting to show my support of the game :)
OOOOH THATS OK THEN!! i am as well! it just totally rubbed me the wrong way
how is that offensive anyway?.. And it's mostly a joke anyway, no need to take it that seriously
yeah i am just joking and not offended
beautiful message
Minor nitpick; you can't get properly introduced to both girls in one run, so the scene in which the player notes that both girls are still home is kinda confusing. Maybe rewrite the dialogue in that section so it doesn't imply that you met the other girl before?
EDIT: Also, in one of the dialogues near the end of Scout's route, "Scout and Scout" should be "Collette and Shout".
Also the scene that mentions gay furries and kinks has a "your'e" instead of "you're," and after that "affct" instead of "affect". A few scenes later, there's "shot support" instead of "show support".
Pointing these out because I love this game!
When clever writing doesn't do it, and puns just fly by, sometimes a solid bop to face with reality is all you can do.
The game was fun, I saw it and was interested in it without knowing what to expect, other than it being short. Kinda sad there couldn't be more to it, probably that is the point.
The point of this game is to deliver a message, that is to make clear that expression and art should not be censored by corporate tyrants that think they can dictate a person's freedoms or rights. That they decide what you as a person can buy. Realistically, from all I have read throughout the many people that speak up, these corporate types really think they own you and can decide how you exist for their benefit.
If the text on this page is anything to go by, they're using ChatGPT to write it.
100%. It has all of the typical AI writing habits
This is a genuinely important game and message that people must understand in this current situation and I am inspired by this <3
I played both routes and loved the art of the game.
Between Collette and Scout, Scout was my favorite of the two girls
Scout’s route had me internally cracking up with the Tim Burton line and the line about the black toilet. 😆
I did notice some spelling mistakes. Collette doesn’t say, “affect” but instead “affct.”
Scout says, “Scout and Scout” instead of “Collette and Scout.”
Otherwise, I felt that the ending monologue was written in a way that better reflected Scout’s personality versus Collette’s personality. Yet, I liked and agreed with the overall sentiment in the game’s conclusion.
Hopefully, this VN of yours doesn’t get banned or removed. I’m thankful one of my visual novels didn’t get removed, at least not yet, and that one featured NSFW content.
I even signed the petition, outraged by the censorship as well.
Keep up the good work! 🤩
FREAKS STAY TOGETHER
全面支持
honestly want that porn scene the player that have is handy man called dick for the whole ass joke
Powerful!
Best NSFW game on Itch! Oh wait…
they still exist aktually their not gone u just cant look them up here
Thanks i will play just for being what it is, a protest
That's some quality!
viva la revolution!!!
viva !!!!
looks like things are getting back to nomal they just reindexed all the deindexed games
🤩
This was surprisingly good-- the ending is something that more people seriously need to pay attention to!
This is where I'd drop a couple dollars for the laughs, if only itch didn't openly threaten to withhold payments lmaoooo