We always were - from the Red Scare to the panic about DND, metal music and weed, it's just been one very extended (and admittedly, at times, quiet) moral panic.
Shit man. Not gonna lie, that hit me hard almost started tearing up. Strong message and very well delivered. Bravo. I've already been backing this movement to stop censorship but this gave me even more drive to push harder. Thank you and keep on creating. Sending as much love and support as I can and will share the message.
"A piece of media with a message made you cry? What are you, a little bitch?"
Yeah, man, almost like people enjoy content when it's looking to be genuine and has a good message. Do you think it's bad feel deeply about something you care about?
Thanks for posting this, although I don't play the game (I like boys^^) I stand by your stance!
This site is one of the few places where I get to play a lot of romantic games (whether the target is a boy or a girl), and the NSFW content is a chapter for me to be able to connect with my romantic interests on a deeper level, and I'm saddened to see so many wonderful creations blocked or even deleted!!!! The world is getting more and more scary, people with normal minds don't commit crimes just because they play NSFW games.
I'm sorry to say this in a rude way, but mobbing or even blocking games is total SXXT! Those groups will only attack games, and they wouldn't dare to attack groups or Hollerwood who create TV and film with gory or violent content! It's really a joke that they only care about the virtual and not the real to protect the women or children they claim to defend!!!!
Wish this world could be better and more embracing, our society is going back to the way it was.
man why this show up I was just lookin' for some horror... but I would join the protest if I knew code and I had good drawing let alone having a stomach and dignity to draw this stuff
You can learn to code, Ren'py is fairly simple, and there's a plentiful amount of instructive guides on HTML, CSS, C++, Java, and other languages on Youtube and via text.
You just need to put the time and effort into it, but it's worth it - especially with how everything is being digitized and uploaded, it'd be smart for everyone to have a little knowledge with all of this stuff.
Well, there's drawing guides out there. It's definitely not "easy" to improve art skills by any measure (I tried to improve for a bit in HS), but if you're doing it consistently, I've heard that you'll improve with time.
I also imagine that doing different styles, subjects and using different themes can all help you with finding your artistic voice.
The important thing to take away is to stick to something if you're interested in it - ESPECIALLY when it gets hard, as that's the formative part (and arguably the most important) of improving on a skill.
Apoyo completamente, sinceramente se me hace algo tonto y/o estúpido lo de la censura, cada quien juega lo que quiere y si les molestan los juegos +18, solo no los jueguen y ya, no hay porque quitar el a otras personas el tipo de contenido que les gusta ver, y si ese es el caso porque mejor no atacaron a ph y a páginas de ese tipo?
so many NSFW games came out of itch.io that i genuinely played for the plot and censoring something like that is just outrageous. were getting closer and closer to making 1984 into reality. other than that i really enjoyed the references about the situation in the game itself, i hope you creators are gonna get your way.
Speech brother. Social media is tuning into a real life, modern day, 1984. And that's scary as fuck. Everyone suffers except those who control. Nobody has real ideas. The lowers one don't die phsyically, we die mentally. Our creativity, gone. Our freedom, what's that? We all do the same thing, make boring, cheesy, cringy, "family friendly" shitty content/games. YouTube and Tumblr have already fallen for it the most, Itch and Steam are getting closer. Before, it was just ACTUALLY things to censor, like death threats, extreme homophobia/heterophobia. Now it's fucking WORDS, IDEAS, STORIES, SEX, MENTAL FUCKING ILLNESS. The internet is censoring life itself. I really hope we don't fall into 1984, but from it seems, it might be too late.
I made the promise of never purchasing a single game on itch until they change their policies and stop removing already purchased games from players libraries.
I'm somehow ok with them delisting games they see problematic for their bussiness but removing already purchased games from player's libraries is like a war crime for me so, if you have a patreon, kofi or any other way to give you some coins it would be great. Let me know.
Can you please link to an example of where a game was removed from someone’s library? Unfortunately there’s a lot of misinformation going around. None of the changes that were deployed last week impacted availability of content in libraries. You can learn more on the FAQ on this post: https://itch.io/updates/update-on-nsfw-content#addendum-faq
Greetings! My game "SCP: Affection" is still under shadowban, even tho I followed the new rules. May you please unban it? Also I don't have access to your discord server. Best Regards!
Please don’t hijack other people’s comments for your own support issue
We didn’t “shadow ban” anyone. We “deindexed” a subset of pages from the discovery part of the site based on some criteria and announced it to our users https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_banning
I can guarantee you that they don't care what the actual, literary definition of "shadow banning" is, because the concept is the same - they aren't getting paid when the donations should be going to them because of Itch's dog-ass policies.
The literal definition is very important: we specifically didn’t “ban” creators to enable them to still collect where possible while we look for a long term solution that doesn’t put the platform at risk.
Maybe you can find them for yourself if you're an employee of Itch.io instead of asking in a thread on one specific game where I had to scroll down for quite a while to access these comments. Kind of a stupid way of finding out which games have been de-listed, but I imagine you said that moreso because you think you have some kind of "one-up" on the people putting stuff on this platform with that line, but you don't. It just makes you and the platform (I'm presuming you work for) look lazy and deliberately cruel.
The "misinformation" is most certainly because Itch.io did pulled a bunch of games from the storefront with literally no warning, even though Itch has presented itself (at least, one account on Twitter definitely did) as a platform SPECIFICALLY FOR NSFW ARTISTS AND DEVELOPERS.
Admittedly the original version of this comment was made in error, I completely misunderstood what leafo was asking, but I'm more than willing to say that I spoke out of turn and was unnecessarily rude, but I would also say that it should go to show that I think how this was handled by Itch to be a massive blunder.
Also the first paragraph on the post above is another example of my misunderstanding why they were asking, but I'll leave that one as-is because I'm willing to both admit and show that my ego and/or pride were misplaced.
TL;DR: Said some smarmy shit and got put in my place, I'm enough of an adult to admit it.
We didn’t do any code changes that would prevent people from accessing content. The reason why I’m asking for people to share instances of issues because it’s been cases of people confused about how the website works, so I want to understand where the confusion is coming from. We’ve already made a few updates to the UI in some areas to make it more clear about access in cases where pages had to be taken down. I’ve been going around to people who are making claims to get a better understanding of their situation. Hope that makes sense.
Oh yes, the changes in code are definitely the issue here, and not the whole part about "people getting de-listed from the main store even though they were following the original rules Itch had in place until they decided to change them" or anything like that.
What's gonna happen to developer projects and creators when someone with more power than Itch (like payment processors, for example) decides they don't like violent content? I'm sure Itch will stand up against them like they did for the NSFW creators, right?
Or maybe Itch will just change the policies again and decide to de-list anything with "harmful depictions of violence", and MAYBE Itch will later decide to re-list the games after enough people complain, but I doubt it since Itch has already been more than happy to throw their creators under the bus, so I can only imagine how eager the platform will be to do it again for the sake of our ever-so-benevolent financial overlords.
Frankly, I can only imagine Visa and Mastercard have been emboldened to threaten Itch again, since it cooperated so efficiently in the past, and now will be even more interested in following through with their threats specifically BECAUSE the platform decided to pull the rug out from under everyone and start dictating who gets paid and when.
I fully agree and am supporting this game's message, and I want people to know itch.io's perspective as well.
Like the game said games that push the boundaries and express the intimate part of the human experience are extremely important and should be able to thrive on its platform and bring livelihood to their creators. They should be able to reach people who need to feel validated that their thoughts and actions AREN'T awful and that repressing everything is a bad thing.
But the situation right now as I understand it is that the biggest contributor of this livelihood Mastercard and Visa, (Even though is it individual people with their own money and will that really shouldn't be able to be controlled by a company) are threatening to completely KILL this site and stop allowing people to pay for ANYTHING hosted on this platform.
I think itch.io wanted to protect as much of their creators as they could in the face of a threat like this, and so had to act accordingly.
Their statement said that they're reviewing the games they've delisted which hopefully means that in time they will be listed once more
Itch.io had to unfairly choose and it's awful but that is what the situation called for unfortunately
The people and groups really to blame for disrupting the livelihood of creators and stopping people from being seen are collective shout and Mastercard and Visa for somehow getting convinced by this Australian non-profit with not even 50,000 people to make the rash decision of pulling away from itch.io at the expense of thousands of creators, and hundreds of thousands of consumers.
But those are just my thoughts that I still have the freedom of sharing thank god
BUT it's not just about making a game with rape, incest, or mutilation. Do you really need to see a crime to be sexually stimulated?
I don't agree with such a broad sanction by the payment companies, but they have the right to not want their brand associated with games that support rape and oppression
Payment companies absolutely do not have the right to block whatever they find unappealing to their 'brand.'
Jesus Christ, their entire purpose is to facilitate transactions between two places, that's it. I hope there are a thousand more games like this that push this wave of censorship to breaking point because ruling what is and is not fit for public consumption is not the job of fucking Visa.
Nobody’s arguing that rape or mutilation are good things. The point is that fiction, even dark and uncomfortable fiction, exists to explore extremes, not to promote them. Just like watching a war film doesn’t make you a war criminal, playing a game with taboo content doesn’t mean you’re about to commit a crime. Shockingly, people are capable of separating fantasy from reality. Who knew?
What’s really worrying is that payment processors are acting like the new moral police, cutting off support to anything that doesn’t fit their blurry definition of acceptable. So who gets to decide what counts as oppressive or too offensive? Is it just whatever makes a PR guy nervous that day?
If a company doesn’t want to be associated with certain content, fine. But at least be consistent, be clear, and stop pretending it’s about protecting people. It’s not. It’s about brand image and control, and that’s a much bigger problem than any piece of messed-up fiction.
I have inherited these censorship tools from their previous holders and have decided that a genre of games you enjoy (train stuff, judging by your other comments) is now banned because it may help those with intent to cause harm familiarise themselves with transportation systems. No more sims, peasant.
See the problem yet?
(For the record: I have no problem with any genre of sim games)
Although I am not an NSFW game consumer (not yet at least ;)),this makes a very valid argument, especially the part about NSFW games funding other, SFW projects. Even though it's not a game, it reminded me of the story of Nagatoro-san; the mangaka started initially drawing doujinshi, and then switshed to more SFW stuff, even if Nagatoro-san is still on the edgier side of things, and look at it! It's become a very well known and respected (maybe) manga and even got itself an anime adaptation.
Even if some poeple go too far, I trust the NSFW game community and the porn connaisseurs to self-regulate themselves, and create a healthy and welcoming ecosystem.
I think that taking away this launch pad for creators and home for consumers, is a net negative for the online community as a whole.
Though I do want to make clear that I find games like No Mercy not ok and that the people who made it should probably have the tip of their penis papercutted and that it is very refflective of the hostility that women have to face both online and in real life today.
However, from what i've seen, it has been greatly blown out of proportion.
And even if it was just as horrible as people were saying, nuking the entire adult game genre for a few sick fucks seem excessive to me.
Moreover, claiming that companies like Mastercard or Visa are endorsing these games by hosting monetary transactions for them and are thus benefiting from it, even though it maybe represents one pico-percent of their yearly income is disingenuous and unrealistic.
I don't want to pull a perfect-world-falacy here but the answer to me seems to "just" be harder moderation if we don't want games like this, though that would require companies like Steam to actually give a fuck about their consumers...
No. People in power don't listen to those that have less power, this is not an opinion, but a fact. Instead, the way to make those with more power listen to those with less is through their wallet or through an equal or greater amount of power, so the method I'd suggest is through not buying anything on Itch, and instead, go directly to the creators to support their stuff in whatever way you can - Patreon, Kofi, etc.
Itch needs to bleed their finances until they capitulate to us. Or, as Nietzsche put it, "Life itself is will to power."
well said, if you have some donation box I would love to donate to you dude. You literally read my mind and took the words right outta my mouth, mad respect
you deserve your voice to be heard, and art is art. Without risk and explicit stuff, alot of influential works and masterpieces we all adore would've never existed. Everyone and anyone can make art, both safe and not safe for work. Passion, creativity, the world needs more soul than ever. This was the best commentary I read on this whole situation, thank you for this
thanks for the donation request, but I did not make this game for anyone to support me financially. If you want to support someone, try to find a way to support NSFW developers; they need it right now.
............being moderately offended over something that wasn't necessarily personal isn't really near comparable to what actually queer people experience. just saying <3
Minor nitpick; you can't get properly introduced to both girls in one run, so the scene in which the player notes that both girls are still home is kinda confusing. Maybe rewrite the dialogue in that section so it doesn't imply that you met the other girl before?
EDIT: Also, in one of the dialogues near the end of Scout's route, "Scout and Scout" should be "Collette and Shout".
Also the scene that mentions gay furries and kinks has a "your'e" instead of "you're," and after that "affct" instead of "affect". A few scenes later, there's "shot support" instead of "show support".
When clever writing doesn't do it, and puns just fly by, sometimes a solid bop to face with reality is all you can do.
The game was fun, I saw it and was interested in it without knowing what to expect, other than it being short. Kinda sad there couldn't be more to it, probably that is the point.
The point of this game is to deliver a message, that is to make clear that expression and art should not be censored by corporate tyrants that think they can dictate a person's freedoms or rights. That they decide what you as a person can buy. Realistically, from all I have read throughout the many people that speak up, these corporate types really think they own you and can decide how you exist for their benefit.
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The message is nice, but you should totally finish this game one day lol. It is a shame we're caught in a modern-day moral panic though
We always were - from the Red Scare to the panic about DND, metal music and weed, it's just been one very extended (and admittedly, at times, quiet) moral panic.
love the message caught my cousin playing this game in my phone and started rage quitting when the censorship came up sign me in!
Shit man. Not gonna lie, that hit me hard almost started tearing up. Strong message and very well delivered. Bravo. I've already been backing this movement to stop censorship but this gave me even more drive to push harder. Thank you and keep on creating. Sending as much love and support as I can and will share the message.
A porn game made you cry?
the dev literally talked about that in the game. please.
There's barely even porn about this game. It's just suggestive in its own right.
"A piece of media with a message made you cry? What are you, a little bitch?"
Yeah, man, almost like people enjoy content when it's looking to be genuine and has a good message. Do you think it's bad feel deeply about something you care about?
ONE OF MY FAVORITE CREATORS RATED IT ONE STAR LMAOAOSO THATS SO FUCKED UP IM CRYING
W game
Viva la revolucion!!!
Bring back the NSFW!
da worst geim evar
did you even read the description
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Now that's apt.
A game made of spite and in protest of this unfair movement?.....sing me in!!!!
Thanks for posting this, although I don't play the game (I like boys^^) I stand by your stance!
This site is one of the few places where I get to play a lot of romantic games (whether the target is a boy or a girl), and the NSFW content is a chapter for me to be able to connect with my romantic interests on a deeper level, and I'm saddened to see so many wonderful creations blocked or even deleted!!!! The world is getting more and more scary, people with normal minds don't commit crimes just because they play NSFW games.
I'm sorry to say this in a rude way, but mobbing or even blocking games is total SXXT! Those groups will only attack games, and they wouldn't dare to attack groups or Hollerwood who create TV and film with gory or violent content! It's really a joke that they only care about the virtual and not the real to protect the women or children they claim to defend!!!!
Wish this world could be better and more embracing, our society is going back to the way it was.
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Boy kisser spotted
Newsflash, it's now gay to be a straight woman! /s
BOY
KISSING
I already signed the petition
And that part about "The indie game that made you cry at 2am" hit for me
man why this show up I was just lookin' for some horror... but I would join the protest if I knew code and I had good drawing let alone having a stomach and dignity to draw this stuff
You can learn to code, Ren'py is fairly simple, and there's a plentiful amount of instructive guides on HTML, CSS, C++, Java, and other languages on Youtube and via text.
You just need to put the time and effort into it, but it's worth it - especially with how everything is being digitized and uploaded, it'd be smart for everyone to have a little knowledge with all of this stuff.
oh really? well there is I can't draw good... only decent but tries.
Well, there's drawing guides out there. It's definitely not "easy" to improve art skills by any measure (I tried to improve for a bit in HS), but if you're doing it consistently, I've heard that you'll improve with time.
I also imagine that doing different styles, subjects and using different themes can all help you with finding your artistic voice.
The important thing to take away is to stick to something if you're interested in it - ESPECIALLY when it gets hard, as that's the formative part (and arguably the most important) of improving on a skill.
I very much agree with this protest
I hate how all social media is getting rid of the ACTUALLY GOOD CONTENT
whatttttttttttt
I don't even play ts whys this in my Linux games feed
I'm here for the social discourse and anarchy and gooning. Carry on. ♥
Apoyo completamente, sinceramente se me hace algo tonto y/o estúpido lo de la censura, cada quien juega lo que quiere y si les molestan los juegos +18, solo no los jueguen y ya, no hay porque quitar el a otras personas el tipo de contenido que les gusta ver, y si ese es el caso porque mejor no atacaron a ph y a páginas de ese tipo?
To everyone protesting make sure to call these numbers but act professional:
Fucking based
pretty cool 8/10
Fight the Big Fight
I really hope this sudden puritanism is punished apropriatly.
It won't, this kind of thing has been happening for decades.
so many NSFW games came out of itch.io that i genuinely played for the plot and censoring something like that is just outrageous. were getting closer and closer to making 1984 into reality. other than that i really enjoyed the references about the situation in the game itself, i hope you creators are gonna get your way.
Speech brother. Social media is tuning into a real life, modern day, 1984. And that's scary as fuck. Everyone suffers except those who control. Nobody has real ideas. The lowers one don't die phsyically, we die mentally. Our creativity, gone. Our freedom, what's that? We all do the same thing, make boring, cheesy, cringy, "family friendly" shitty content/games. YouTube and Tumblr have already fallen for it the most, Itch and Steam are getting closer. Before, it was just ACTUALLY things to censor, like death threats, extreme homophobia/heterophobia. Now it's fucking WORDS, IDEAS, STORIES, SEX, MENTAL FUCKING ILLNESS. The internet is censoring life itself. I really hope we don't fall into 1984, but from it seems, it might be too late.
Pretty cool game!
Is there a way to support you outside from itch?
I made the promise of never purchasing a single game on itch until they change their policies and stop removing already purchased games from players libraries.
I'm somehow ok with them delisting games they see problematic for their bussiness but removing already purchased games from player's libraries is like a war crime for me so, if you have a patreon, kofi or any other way to give you some coins it would be great. Let me know.
You can't support me outside of itch.io right now, unfortunately. You can however, share the game and get the word out, which would mean a lot to me
Can you please link to an example of where a game was removed from someone’s library? Unfortunately there’s a lot of misinformation going around. None of the changes that were deployed last week impacted availability of content in libraries. You can learn more on the FAQ on this post: https://itch.io/updates/update-on-nsfw-content#addendum-faq
Greetings! My game "SCP: Affection" is still under shadowban, even tho I followed the new rules. May you please unban it? Also I don't have access to your discord server. Best Regards!
Request Code: 299031
I can guarantee you that they don't care what the actual, literary definition of "shadow banning" is, because the concept is the same - they aren't getting paid when the donations should be going to them because of Itch's dog-ass policies.
The literal definition is very important: we specifically didn’t “ban” creators to enable them to still collect where possible while we look for a long term solution that doesn’t put the platform at risk.
Maybe you can find them for yourself if you're an employee of Itch.io instead of asking in a thread on one specific game where I had to scroll down for quite a while to access these comments. Kind of a stupid way of finding out which games have been de-listed, but I imagine you said that moreso because you think you have some kind of "one-up" on the people putting stuff on this platform with that line, but you don't. It just makes you and the platform (I'm presuming you work for) look lazy and deliberately cruel.
The "misinformation" is most certainly because Itch.io did pulled a bunch of games from the storefront with literally no warning, even though Itch has presented itself (at least, one account on Twitter definitely did) as a platform SPECIFICALLY FOR NSFW ARTISTS AND DEVELOPERS.
Admittedly the original version of this comment was made in error, I completely misunderstood what leafo was asking, but I'm more than willing to say that I spoke out of turn and was unnecessarily rude, but I would also say that it should go to show that I think how this was handled by Itch to be a massive blunder.
Also the first paragraph on the post above is another example of my misunderstanding why they were asking, but I'll leave that one as-is because I'm willing to both admit and show that my ego and/or pride were misplaced.
TL;DR: Said some smarmy shit and got put in my place, I'm enough of an adult to admit it.
We didn’t do any code changes that would prevent people from accessing content. The reason why I’m asking for people to share instances of issues because it’s been cases of people confused about how the website works, so I want to understand where the confusion is coming from. We’ve already made a few updates to the UI in some areas to make it more clear about access in cases where pages had to be taken down. I’ve been going around to people who are making claims to get a better understanding of their situation. Hope that makes sense.
Oh yes, the changes in code are definitely the issue here, and not the whole part about "people getting de-listed from the main store even though they were following the original rules Itch had in place until they decided to change them" or anything like that.
What's gonna happen to developer projects and creators when someone with more power than Itch (like payment processors, for example) decides they don't like violent content? I'm sure Itch will stand up against them like they did for the NSFW creators, right?
Or maybe Itch will just change the policies again and decide to de-list anything with "harmful depictions of violence", and MAYBE Itch will later decide to re-list the games after enough people complain, but I doubt it since Itch has already been more than happy to throw their creators under the bus, so I can only imagine how eager the platform will be to do it again for the sake of our ever-so-benevolent financial overlords.
Frankly, I can only imagine Visa and Mastercard have been emboldened to threaten Itch again, since it cooperated so efficiently in the past, and now will be even more interested in following through with their threats specifically BECAUSE the platform decided to pull the rug out from under everyone and start dictating who gets paid and when.
devs can set so that 0% of the money goes to itch, I'd like that
Very nice message.
except for some typoes in the text (scout and scout... collective shout // wierd)
Love it! :)
The pun is that "Collette and scout" sounds like collective shout... or is supposed to anyway
ye i guessed. but still the typo "scout scout" is in there in the Scout text
I fully agree and am supporting this game's message, and I want people to know itch.io's perspective as well.
Like the game said games that push the boundaries and express the intimate part of the human experience are extremely important and should be able to thrive on its platform and bring livelihood to their creators. They should be able to reach people who need to feel validated that their thoughts and actions AREN'T awful and that repressing everything is a bad thing.
But the situation right now as I understand it is that the biggest contributor of this livelihood Mastercard and Visa, (Even though is it individual people with their own money and will that really shouldn't be able to be controlled by a company) are threatening to completely KILL this site and stop allowing people to pay for ANYTHING hosted on this platform.
I think itch.io wanted to protect as much of their creators as they could in the face of a threat like this, and so had to act accordingly.
Their statement said that they're reviewing the games they've delisted which hopefully means that in time they will be listed once more
Itch.io had to unfairly choose and it's awful but that is what the situation called for unfortunately
The people and groups really to blame for disrupting the livelihood of creators and stopping people from being seen are collective shout and Mastercard and Visa for somehow getting convinced by this Australian non-profit with not even 50,000 people to make the rash decision of pulling away from itch.io at the expense of thousands of creators, and hundreds of thousands of consumers.
But those are just my thoughts that I still have the freedom of sharing thank god
They are not even censoring things like these because they care about the children.
Not really, that’s just a cover to push forward their own agenda or control.
BUT it's not just about making a game with rape, incest, or mutilation. Do you really need to see a crime to be sexually stimulated?
I don't agree with such a broad sanction by the payment companies, but they have the right to not want their brand associated with games that support rape and oppression
Payment companies absolutely do not have the right to block whatever they find unappealing to their 'brand.'
Jesus Christ, their entire purpose is to facilitate transactions between two places, that's it. I hope there are a thousand more games like this that push this wave of censorship to breaking point because ruling what is and is not fit for public consumption is not the job of fucking Visa.
Nobody’s arguing that rape or mutilation are good things. The point is that fiction, even dark and uncomfortable fiction, exists to explore extremes, not to promote them. Just like watching a war film doesn’t make you a war criminal, playing a game with taboo content doesn’t mean you’re about to commit a crime. Shockingly, people are capable of separating fantasy from reality. Who knew?
What’s really worrying is that payment processors are acting like the new moral police, cutting off support to anything that doesn’t fit their blurry definition of acceptable. So who gets to decide what counts as oppressive or too offensive? Is it just whatever makes a PR guy nervous that day?
If a company doesn’t want to be associated with certain content, fine. But at least be consistent, be clear, and stop pretending it’s about protecting people. It’s not. It’s about brand image and control, and that’s a much bigger problem than any piece of messed-up fiction.
I have inherited these censorship tools from their previous holders and have decided that a genre of games you enjoy (train stuff, judging by your other comments) is now banned because it may help those with intent to cause harm familiarise themselves with transportation systems. No more sims, peasant.
See the problem yet?
(For the record: I have no problem with any genre of sim games)
Keep those in if it means people can have creative freedom :)
Although I am not an NSFW game consumer (not yet at least ;)),this makes a very valid argument, especially the part about NSFW games funding other, SFW projects. Even though it's not a game, it reminded me of the story of Nagatoro-san; the mangaka started initially drawing doujinshi, and then switshed to more SFW stuff, even if Nagatoro-san is still on the edgier side of things, and look at it! It's become a very well known and respected (maybe) manga and even got itself an anime adaptation.
Even if some poeple go too far, I trust the NSFW game community and the porn connaisseurs to self-regulate themselves, and create a healthy and welcoming ecosystem.
I think that taking away this launch pad for creators and home for consumers, is a net negative for the online community as a whole.
Though I do want to make clear that I find games like No Mercy not ok and that the people who made it should probably have the tip of their penis papercutted and that it is very refflective of the hostility that women have to face both online and in real life today.
However, from what i've seen, it has been greatly blown out of proportion.
And even if it was just as horrible as people were saying, nuking the entire adult game genre for a few sick fucks seem excessive to me.
Moreover, claiming that companies like Mastercard or Visa are endorsing these games by hosting monetary transactions for them and are thus benefiting from it, even though it maybe represents one pico-percent of their yearly income is disingenuous and unrealistic.
I don't want to pull a perfect-world-falacy here but the answer to me seems to "just" be harder moderation if we don't want games like this, though that would require companies like Steam to actually give a fuck about their consumers...
Bring back the porn 🙏
preach king
Update on NSFW content
More information here: https://itch.io/updates/update-on-nsfw-content
Petitions below:
https://www.change.org/p/tell-mastercard-visa-activist-groups-stop-controlling-w...
https://action.aclu.org/petition/mastercard-sex-work-work-end-your-unjust-policy
thanks for this
VALID POINTS ALL AROUND THE BOARD
ITCHIO BETTER BE LISTENING
ARE YOUR EARS OPEN?????
HEY ITCHIO ARE U LISTENING
No. People in power don't listen to those that have less power, this is not an opinion, but a fact. Instead, the way to make those with more power listen to those with less is through their wallet or through an equal or greater amount of power, so the method I'd suggest is through not buying anything on Itch, and instead, go directly to the creators to support their stuff in whatever way you can - Patreon, Kofi, etc.
Itch needs to bleed their finances until they capitulate to us. Or, as Nietzsche put it, "Life itself is will to power."
YYYYAYY YALL LETS HYPE THIS SHT UP
well said, if you have some donation box I would love to donate to you dude. You literally read my mind and took the words right outta my mouth, mad respect
you deserve your voice to be heard, and art is art. Without risk and explicit stuff, alot of influential works and masterpieces we all adore would've never existed. Everyone and anyone can make art, both safe and not safe for work. Passion, creativity, the world needs more soul than ever. This was the best commentary I read on this whole situation, thank you for this
thanks for the donation request, but I did not make this game for anyone to support me financially. If you want to support someone, try to find a way to support NSFW developers; they need it right now.
loved the message but being called a vanilla hetero was a bit offensive >< (jk)
............being moderately offended over something that wasn't necessarily personal isn't really near comparable to what actually queer people experience. just saying <3
i'm not offended at all; it was a joke because i am queer. just commenting to show my support of the game :)
OOOOH THATS OK THEN!! i am as well! it just totally rubbed me the wrong way
how is that offensive anyway?.. And it's mostly a joke anyway, no need to take it that seriously
yeah i am just joking and not offended
beautiful message
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Minor nitpick; you can't get properly introduced to both girls in one run, so the scene in which the player notes that both girls are still home is kinda confusing. Maybe rewrite the dialogue in that section so it doesn't imply that you met the other girl before?
EDIT: Also, in one of the dialogues near the end of Scout's route, "Scout and Scout" should be "Collette and Shout".
Also the scene that mentions gay furries and kinks has a "your'e" instead of "you're," and after that "affct" instead of "affect". A few scenes later, there's "shot support" instead of "show support".
Pointing these out because I love this game!
When clever writing doesn't do it, and puns just fly by, sometimes a solid bop to face with reality is all you can do.
The game was fun, I saw it and was interested in it without knowing what to expect, other than it being short. Kinda sad there couldn't be more to it, probably that is the point.
The point of this game is to deliver a message, that is to make clear that expression and art should not be censored by corporate tyrants that think they can dictate a person's freedoms or rights. That they decide what you as a person can buy. Realistically, from all I have read throughout the many people that speak up, these corporate types really think they own you and can decide how you exist for their benefit.
If the text on this page is anything to go by, they're using ChatGPT to write it.
100%. It has all of the typical AI writing habits